Ships of tarshish book mormon

Title, upon all the ships of the sea, and upon all the ships of tarshish. Seely, upon all the ships of the sea, and upon all the ships of tarshish. The book of mormon quotes extensively from the book of isaiah, including entire chapters, and in many cases verbatim to the king james translation. For those unfamiliar with mormon doctrine and the book of mormon, the book of mormon extensively quotes from the book of isaiah in the bible and is almost word for word. The few that do make it through tend to be those that are polite, thoughtful, and relevant to the discussion on this page. And upon all the ships of tarshish, and upon au pleasant pictures. It turns out that interpreting the phrase ships of tarshish as ships of the sea was wellknown in british and american bible interpretation in the decades preceding the publication of the book of mormon. Jan 29, 2014 and upon all the ships of the sea, and upon all the ships of tarshish, and upon all luxury ships. Literally, we should translate, thou hast multiplied the. Throughout the bible tarshish, the word itself used in different contexts, appears many times in the bible. In his recent book by the hand of mormon 2002, terryl l. Book of mormon, 1830, page 87 the joseph smith papers. And upon all the ships of the sea, and upon all the. What is lds teaching about how bible verses came to be in the.

Kjv translation errors as found in the book of mormon. Kjv isaiah in the book of mormon why the lds church is. Tarshish is a family name found among jews of ashkenazic descent. The book of mormon, isaiah and the dead sea scrolls sign in to follow this. Notice that the book of mormon mentions three things 1 ships of the sea, 2 ships of tarshish, and 3 all pleasant pictures. Generally, we find that when the king james version commits a translation error, the book of mormon usually follows. For the day of the lord of hosts soon cometh upon all nations, yea, upon every one. And upon all the ships of the sea, and upon all the ships of tarshish, and upon all the 96 pleasant pictures. In the year that king uzziah died i saw the lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up. The book of mormon and the king james bible wikipedia. Givenss summary of the significance attached to the unique reading of isaiah 2. Plagiarism the book of mormon narrative says that the jews who left jerusalem for the new world had with them the scriptures written up until that point 600 b. Notably, the book of mormon adds the following bolded statement to the king james rendering of this verse and upon all the ships of the sea, and upon all the ships of tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. In addition to this table below, at least 52 other verses from isaiah are found throughout the book of mormon.

One variant reading of isaiah deserved special notice. It is ironic that critics of the book of mormon find fault with its plagiarism, even. Setting aside the conclusion about the brass plates, but acknowledging that many of the verses in 2 nephi dont match isaiah, it seems to me that if joseph were using a bible as a translation tool that it would not have. Finally, most biblical scholars recognize that the septuagint reading is a paraphrase of the hebrew, since tarshish was well known for its ports and ships in old testament times. The youtube blogger references something that the lds church. Some latterday saint commentators deem a phrase that appears in 2 nephi 12. Isaiah variants in the book of mormon religious studies center. If we can locate tarshish in the ancient world we can identify tarshish in the last days prophecies. A variation on the name, tarshishi, is found among arabs of lebanese descent, and likely indicates a family connection to the lebanese village tarshish.

This question has long been posed by students of the bible, with a variety of answers being given. The isaiah passages in the book of mormon a non aligned text the above title and link refers to a 2001 masters thesis. And upon all the ships of the sea, and upon all the ships of tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. The phrase and increased the joy in the book of mormon has as its antecedent nation of the first clause. These ships would have sailed from the major ports of the mediterranean, one of which was tyre. Ships of the sea or tarshish offline book of mormon. Without a cause and ships of tarshish 159 ships of tarshish isaiah 2.

Whether or not tarshish is to be identified with a geographical location such as tartessus in southern spain or tarsus in cilicia or is thought to mean. Literally, we should translate, thou hast multiplied the nation, and to it thou hast increased the joy. The book of mormon suggests that the original text of this verse contained three phrases. The extensive use of isaiah poses several problems. Upon all the ships of the sea, and upon all the ships of. An account written by the hand of mormon, upon plates taken from the plates of nephi. Book of mormontranslation errors from the kjv fairmormon. Ezekiel, in 587bc described all of the commodities.

The youtube blogger references something that the lds church puts in the footnotes of this passage of the book of mormon. Some 58 are paraphrased and 11 others are variants and or paraphrases. What is lds teaching about how bible verses came to be in. Tarshish city creationwiki, the encyclopedia of creation. So, it turns out that the book of mormon quotes text that is totally unique to the greek septuagint bible. Scriptures about prophecies about tarshish bible verses. And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low. Book of mormonplagiarism accusationsking james bible.

The book of mormon has a footnote on the word sea which explains the difference. Isaiah in the bom by common consent, a mormon blog. And king solomon passed all the kings of the earth in riches and wisdom. Jun 25, 2007 16a the greek septuagint has ships of the sea. Of the 478 verses in the book of mormon quoted from the book of isaiah, 201 agree with the king james reading while 207 show variations. Yea, and the day of the lord shall come upon all the cedars of lebanon, for they are high and lifted up. Ships that plough the atlantic ocean bringing people back from america, britain, and western europe.

Palmyra, known as swifts landing and tolland before being renamed palmyra, 1796. This question has long been posed by students of the. People who do not accept the authenticity of the book of mormon will. And upon all the ships of the sea, and upon all the ships of tarshish, and upon all luxury ships. That the book of mormon quotes from isaiah is not a problem, except that joseph smiths 1830 translation reads nearly verbatim to the 1611 king james translation. It is to the variants that we will give our attention here. For the kings ships went to tarshish with the servants of huram. This famous city, about 50 miles south of beirut, was once a mercantile world center, comparable in importance to new york, or london, of today. It appears that this name also is used without reference to any locality. A gn for tartessus in spain or hebrew tarsis, possibly referring to a refinery and the ships that carried the refined products. Thus, with regard to the ships of tarshish, which jehoshaphat caused to be constructed at eziongeber on the elanitic gulf of the red sea, 1 kings 22. Smaller numbers of german, irish, scotchirish, dutch, french, spanish, african, and other nationalities also arrived. Upon all the ships of the sea, and upon all the ships of tarshish.

In the context of the city, however, tarshish is both the city or perhaps citystate where jonah made a concerted attempt to flee and where solomon had a trade agreement. Remarkably, the septuagint and targum provide a parallel to the extra line at the. Asterisk denotes a featured version, which includes an introduction and annotation book of mormon, 1830 book of mormon, 1837 book of mormon, 1840 book of mormon, 1841. The isaiah problem in the book of mormon chap 11 shields. Kjv isaiah in the book of mormon why the lds church is true. The book of mormon definitely rejects the former and seems to indicate that the latter was the original. Pre1820 approximately 650,000 individuals of all nationalities arrived in america before 1820. An account written by the hand of mormon, upon plates taken from the plates of.

Wail, o ships of tarshish, for tyre is laid waste, without house or harbor. The book of mormon reading, however, has three phrases, thus breaking the couplet and proving that the reading is impossible. Come, o house of jacob, and let us walk in the light of the lord. The book of mormon contains many linguistic similarities to the king james bible kjv. Tarshish is currently the name of a village in the mount lebanon district of. From the book of chronicles there would seem to have been a tarshish accessible from the red sea, in addition to the tarshish of the south of spain. Tarshish was an ancient city located in modern day southern spain, due north of gilbratar. Tyre or tarshish in southern lebanon would have been the ships first stop outside of the land of israel. Usually reference is made to the ships of tarshish or the merchants of tarshish. Tarshish was also the name of a shortlived political party founded by moshe dwek, wouldbe assassin of israeli prime minister.

Our filter blocks most comments, including any with links or aggressive language. The book of mormon narrative says that the jews who left jerusalem for the new world had with them the scriptures written up until that point 600 b. Tarshish is the name of an ancient city mentioned in the isaiah section of the book of mormon but not as a separate pn or gn in the book of mormon. Isaiah 2 1 the word that isaiah the son of amoz saw concerning judah and jerusalem. Our mission is to produce high quality christian television and film content highlighting critical social issues for the church to engage. Ships of tarshish signify, in scripture, any trading or merchant ships. The book of mormon has both, showing that the brass plates had lost neither phrase. Ships of tarshish is an expression sometimes denoting simply ships intended for a long voyage isa.

Just going to comment on his first piece of evidence. Isaiah variants in the book of mormon religious studies. Sometimes the quotation is explicit, as in the second book of nephi, which contains 18 quoted chapters of the book of isaiah other significant connections between the two books include book of mormon words and phrases that only appear in. For the coastlands shall hope for me, the ships of tarshish first, to bring your children from afar, their silver and gold with them, for the name of the lord your god, and for the holy one of israel, because he has made you beautiful. The general hebrew word for ship, niyya, refers most commonly to seagoing merchant vessels e. In some cases, entire passages are duplicated in the book of mormon. And upon all the ships of tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. Two factors led to my study of the isaiah variants in the book of mormon.

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